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		<title>By: Robin</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-557</link>
		<dc:creator>Robin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The close tying with Vista was only part of GFW&#039;s problems. It&#039;s a project with no clear purpose, being driven on one side to try to compete with Steam et al (in the same way IE competed with Netscape) by locking in publishers, while at the same time being constantly stymied by the fear of cannibalising the hugely more lucrative Xbox 360 business.

Most of the support that it has been afforded by third party publishers thus far has been motivated by kickbacks from Microsoft. It&#039;s simply another piggy bank for publishers to raid along with NVIDIA&#039;s &quot;the way it&#039;s meant to be played&quot; program and similar schemes from AMD, Alienware, etc.

At least, that&#039;s how it was seen until the cracks started to show. (Fallout 3, anyone?) As Mr. Wardell points out, the system is a burden and an obstacle unless you&#039;re trying to make a completely airtight, unchanging console-style game, which is a business model that hasn&#039;t been viable on the PC for at least two years now.

(I was most amused by the way that Batman: Arkham Asylum lets you cut GFWL&#039;s stubby fat fingers off the first time you boot it up. You just *know* that MS had originally intended them to disable saving the SINGLE PLAYER game unless you signed up to Live.)

On the Xbox 360 developers contractually have no choice but to use Live. On the PC, there&#039;s no demand for it and many better alternatives. It needs to be euthanised before it stinks up any more games.

You&#039;re right to remark on the decision by MGS to completely retreat from the PC market. A huge, huge mistake. Every other major publisher is able to see the value in nurturing evolving markets instead of follow doomed strategies for the sake of saving face. Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda, EA and Ubisoft probably can&#039;t believe their luck, watching whole studios and decades-old multi-million-selling franchises being wiped because MS entertainment division management genuinely believes that the 360 business will keep growing forever. Awesome guys, maybe by 2027 you&#039;ll have sold as many units as the PS2, PSP or Wii - who knows, before the heat death of the universe you might even get an MMO on the machine!

Windows 7 is probably going to be embraced by gamers and publishers, while GFW will continue to be shunned. Hopefully this will be a wake-up call for MS to do something about the rampant management hubris that is resulting in such wasteful spectacles as Ensemble and FASA shutting down, Rare working on Mii-too avatars and Lionhead squandering their talents on confused attempts to mimic console RPGs, instead of the PC strategy games they were born to make.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The close tying with Vista was only part of GFW&#8217;s problems. It&#8217;s a project with no clear purpose, being driven on one side to try to compete with Steam et al (in the same way IE competed with Netscape) by locking in publishers, while at the same time being constantly stymied by the fear of cannibalising the hugely more lucrative Xbox 360 business.</p>
<p>Most of the support that it has been afforded by third party publishers thus far has been motivated by kickbacks from Microsoft. It&#8217;s simply another piggy bank for publishers to raid along with NVIDIA&#8217;s &#8220;the way it&#8217;s meant to be played&#8221; program and similar schemes from AMD, Alienware, etc.</p>
<p>At least, that&#8217;s how it was seen until the cracks started to show. (Fallout 3, anyone?) As Mr. Wardell points out, the system is a burden and an obstacle unless you&#8217;re trying to make a completely airtight, unchanging console-style game, which is a business model that hasn&#8217;t been viable on the PC for at least two years now.</p>
<p>(I was most amused by the way that Batman: Arkham Asylum lets you cut GFWL&#8217;s stubby fat fingers off the first time you boot it up. You just *know* that MS had originally intended them to disable saving the SINGLE PLAYER game unless you signed up to Live.)</p>
<p>On the Xbox 360 developers contractually have no choice but to use Live. On the PC, there&#8217;s no demand for it and many better alternatives. It needs to be euthanised before it stinks up any more games.</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right to remark on the decision by MGS to completely retreat from the PC market. A huge, huge mistake. Every other major publisher is able to see the value in nurturing evolving markets instead of follow doomed strategies for the sake of saving face. Activision, Blizzard, Bethesda, EA and Ubisoft probably can&#8217;t believe their luck, watching whole studios and decades-old multi-million-selling franchises being wiped because MS entertainment division management genuinely believes that the 360 business will keep growing forever. Awesome guys, maybe by 2027 you&#8217;ll have sold as many units as the PS2, PSP or Wii &#8211; who knows, before the heat death of the universe you might even get an MMO on the machine!</p>
<p>Windows 7 is probably going to be embraced by gamers and publishers, while GFW will continue to be shunned. Hopefully this will be a wake-up call for MS to do something about the rampant management hubris that is resulting in such wasteful spectacles as Ensemble and FASA shutting down, Rare working on Mii-too avatars and Lionhead squandering their talents on confused attempts to mimic console RPGs, instead of the PC strategy games they were born to make.</p>
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		<title>By: dreamhunk</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-462</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamhunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 04:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>let the whole pc industry go into a mess. It would teach big companies not mess with the food chain agin, namely microsoft. You think hardware companies have bad now just wait wen onlive comes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>let the whole pc industry go into a mess. It would teach big companies not mess with the food chain agin, namely microsoft. You think hardware companies have bad now just wait wen onlive comes.</p>
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		<title>By: Esher</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-460</link>
		<dc:creator>Esher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 21:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> ...so deep that Microsoft can&#039;t even get the handlebars out!

Boycotting AMD is just going to hurt PC Gamers even more. As if the consoles won&#039;t goto Intel anyway if AMD goes under. All that is going to do is create more market problems for PC Gamers. A lack of competition will drive prices way up all over again. And consoles will become even more viable for the gamer-on-a-budget.

It blows my mind that people are even still buying the bloody Xbox 360 after all the issues it has had since release. PCs are always a generation or two ahead in technology and capability. They allow for far more interactivity and richness of content. And don&#039;t ship with a red ring of death.

Are my fellow gamers really that dumb? :( To hell with consoles.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;so deep that Microsoft can&#8217;t even get the handlebars out!</p>
<p>Boycotting AMD is just going to hurt PC Gamers even more. As if the consoles won&#8217;t goto Intel anyway if AMD goes under. All that is going to do is create more market problems for PC Gamers. A lack of competition will drive prices way up all over again. And consoles will become even more viable for the gamer-on-a-budget.</p>
<p>It blows my mind that people are even still buying the bloody Xbox 360 after all the issues it has had since release. PCs are always a generation or two ahead in technology and capability. They allow for far more interactivity and richness of content. And don&#8217;t ship with a red ring of death.</p>
<p>Are my fellow gamers really that dumb? <img src='http://www.couchcampus.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' />  To hell with consoles.</p>
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		<title>By: dreamhunk</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-458</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamhunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:51:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea after crysis invida&#039;s stocks went crashing too. Pc gamers made invida what they are today too, eough said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea after crysis invida&#8217;s stocks went crashing too. Pc gamers made invida what they are today too, eough said.</p>
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		<title>By: dreamhunk</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-457</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamhunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s like this game devs don&#039;t make games on consoles. pc gamers and pc gaming is at the top of the food chain. You don&#039;t beleave me take a nice look at the ps3. Pc gamers suffer the pc Industry suffers!

I mean we have to put up with microsoft,drm, big publisher garbage then they are going to have to pay the price. It called bigger or higher puduction costs. AMD goes bankuprt them console production costs get bigger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s like this game devs don&#8217;t make games on consoles. pc gamers and pc gaming is at the top of the food chain. You don&#8217;t beleave me take a nice look at the ps3. Pc gamers suffer the pc Industry suffers!</p>
<p>I mean we have to put up with microsoft,drm, big publisher garbage then they are going to have to pay the price. It called bigger or higher puduction costs. AMD goes bankuprt them console production costs get bigger.</p>
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		<title>By: deftangel</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-456</link>
		<dc:creator>deftangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 15:36:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, because removing the only current viable competitors to Intel &amp; Nvidia would do the PC market the world of good wouldn&#039;t it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, because removing the only current viable competitors to Intel &#038; Nvidia would do the PC market the world of good wouldn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: dreamhunk</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-455</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamhunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:39:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yea too bad them consoles can&#039;t keep a big company like AMD alive and well. AMD was so close to going bankuprt that they needed to steal money from Intel! The way microsoft have treating pc gamers lately should give pc gamer more reason to boycott AMD from the picture. The sooner AMD goes bankuprt the faster them consoles are going to go by by.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yea too bad them consoles can&#8217;t keep a big company like AMD alive and well. AMD was so close to going bankuprt that they needed to steal money from Intel! The way microsoft have treating pc gamers lately should give pc gamer more reason to boycott AMD from the picture. The sooner AMD goes bankuprt the faster them consoles are going to go by by.</p>
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		<title>By: dreamhunk</title>
		<link>http://www.couchcampus.com/lecture/microsoft-the-blight-of-pc-gaming/#comment-454</link>
		<dc:creator>dreamhunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 13:29:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what pc gamers need to do is boycott AMD. Them consoles can&#039;t support a big company like AMD. In fact AMd who 80% of it&#039;s hardware in consoles almost went bankuprt. They had to steal money from to stay alive. what pc gamers are doing and even more so is boycott AMD.

the whole pc Industry will feel our boycott.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what pc gamers need to do is boycott AMD. Them consoles can&#8217;t support a big company like AMD. In fact AMd who 80% of it&#8217;s hardware in consoles almost went bankuprt. They had to steal money from to stay alive. what pc gamers are doing and even more so is boycott AMD.</p>
<p>the whole pc Industry will feel our boycott.</p>
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		<title>By: deftangel</title>
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		<dc:creator>deftangel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 09:04:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny thing is if you read their publisher newsletters, they talk like it&#039;s a big deal and are still working on it. Yet, nothing manifests. Quite bizarre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny thing is if you read their publisher newsletters, they talk like it&#8217;s a big deal and are still working on it. Yet, nothing manifests. Quite bizarre.</p>
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